- @jerridkruse I disagree. Adults can do more than encourage learning, especially with younger students. They are kids, not little adults. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Kids always want to learn. The problem is that the adults don't always want to teach – especially young black, Latino and in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse poor white males. This cannot be denied, no matter how much you may try. The job of teaching is to find any way to reach, teach in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse and provide students the basic they need so that theu can ultimately become lifelong learners. Sure, it is great to give in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse greater context. But if the kid can't read or add, greater context is meaningless. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Right now, we have far too many kids who can't write their own names, much less write their own stories. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse And once again, we have the tools to measure teacher effectiveness in improving student learning and achievement. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse It's just that you and many of your colleagues don't like the tools or being subjected to accpuntability you don't control. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Thanks for your response. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @chadsansing The problem with your emphasis on "authentic learning" is that you can't actually show it. You can't prove it. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing If authentic learning, by your definition, is sort of the Charles Murray ivory tower version, well, that's something that in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing doesn't really happen until a person has developed into adulthood. The appreciation of how art and philosophy informs life in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing and the world (yours and others), for example, takes decades. This is because it also goes by another name: Wisdom. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing But in order to gain any of that, you must first learn the basics: Read, write, mathematics. If you can't read, you can't write in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing If you can't write, then math becomes harder, especially as one moves away from pure computations to word problems in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing abstract concepts (algebra, trigonometry, calculus). What K-12 education must do is provide those building blocks that help in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing students attain wisdom (this is also true of parenting: it's about giving a child the basics in order for kids to grow up in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing into healthy, strong adults). If we don't measure how schools/teachers/principals are teaching the basics, then we can't in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing assure that kids are getting the basics they need for developing knowledge, becoming lifelong learners, appreciating the world in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing and what goes on within it. Again, I appreciate your desire to foster authentic learning. Don't get me wrong. I do. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing But I also think you're talking about putting carts before horses. Again, I could be wrong (as we all can be). But that's in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing where I stand. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing A life can't be changed until you give a person tools/basic knowledge to use them. You learn, then apprentice, then master. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing Bartholdi couldn't create the Statue of Liberty until he knew sculpting and the fundamentals of working with metal and stone in reply to chadsansing #
- @jerridkruse There's a difference between discussion and rhetoric between two adults, each of whom has been forged by experience, time in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse than academic instruction of a student, who is young, has little experience, ready to learn. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Let's try a better example, Jerrid. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Thanks for that admission. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @chadsansing If you want to work on a portfolio project funded with money you raised yourself, then I'm all for it. ' in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing But in a public education system, in which the tax dollars of citizens forced to pay for educating children other than their in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing own, we owe both the children (who must go to the schools) and the adults (who pay into it) better than subjective portfolio in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing assessment. Again, not against such a plan, Chad. In fact, for a summer learning session or even for afterschool activities in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing I'm ready to put a few dollars down for such a project. Others would probably do the same. It is worthy. I want to see where it in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing goes over time. in reply to chadsansing #
- @jerridkruse How does it? Honestly. Are you telling me the status quo of the past 90 years isn't the reason why we have had to use testing in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse to measure student learning and teacher instruction? I'm sorry, but your argument comes from a misinformed view of the in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse how so many blacks, Latinos, the poor, have been disserved by K-12. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Try a little Jeffrey Mirel. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Dear Jerrid, I think you should just read my work. Then you can actually make a judgment about my level of knowledge. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse And yes, I have an agenda. These are the kids who were just like me. They look like me. They come from the same neighborhoods in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse and communities from which I was raised. I definitely have an agenda. For them. And for my own children. And my nephews and in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse cousins. I don't question your motives. Don't dare question mine. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse Thanks for, well, just thanks. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @jerridkruse By the way: You can disagree without being disagreeable. Try to practice this skill. For your sake. in reply to jerridkruse #
- @chadsansing You are right. Test data isn't inherently objective. But it is easier to make that data more objective. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing And you're definitely right about grades: A grade is dependent, unfortunately, on the teacher. in reply to chadsansing #
- Back to you, Mr. Orwell. RT @amyalkon: Britain now arrests those who offend: #
- @chadsansing It's not just machine-scoring. There's also the value-added assessment piece, which measures growth in learning over time. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing The underlying principles and mathematics aren't perfect (nothing made by man ever is), but are as unassailable and defendable in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing as you can get in the social sciences. I'm all for better ways for measuring student/teacher/school performance. But for now in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing standardized testing is the best. Not perfect, but the best. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. They are much appreciated. in reply to chadsansing #
- @chadsansing Your efforts on behalf of kids are welcomed. in reply to chadsansing #
- The Dropout Nation Podcast: Read to Your Boys (#literacy and male-female #edgaps https://dropoutnation.net/nog #edreform #gradrate #
- At Dropout Nation: Education's Reality Check (#education and layoffs) https://dropoutnation.net/j0b #edreform #teachers #TQ #
- At Dropout Nation: Why School Reform Can Succeed https://dropoutnation.net/e17 (#edreform/optimism vs. trad. ed pessimism over #edgap #
- RT @johnsoncenter @AnnieECaseyFndn: 1 kindergartner in 10 misses a month of school annually, affecting learning http://ow.ly/1GQph #
- @EDUCATIONCEO You're welcome. And I owe you a reply to your e-mail. Apologies. in reply to EDUCATIONCEO #
- Outside Dropout Nation headquarters this morning. http://tweetphoto.com/22387704 #
- RT @D_Aarons @dropoutnation: At Dropout Nation: Why School Reform Can Succeed https://dropoutnation.net/e17 #edreform #edgap #
- RT @everybodywins @dropoutnation: Dropout Nation Podcast: Read to Your Boys (#literacy & male-female #edgaps https://dropoutnation.net/nog #
- Off-ed: R.I.P. Law & Order. Gave us Jerry Orbach's finest hours, Sam Waterston's best poses, even got Anthony Anderson out of dreck flicks. #
- Are really we shocked that he said it? RT @edubeat @daveweigel: ADL hitting Buchanan over his "too many Jews!" column. #
- @D_Aarons I say, expand ed coverage beyond classrooms. The impact of poor instruction is seen in unemployment offices, not in classrooms. in reply to D_Aarons #
- The price of low quality education is seen in prisons, on welfare rolls, in the racial/ethnic makeup of corporate offices. #
- Until ed reporters move from the smiley faces of classrooms to how teachers are trained and where students go after school, ed coverage will #
- remain miles wide and inches deep in the main. #
- Why do we spend $214 billion on criminal justice (and badly)? Because we spend $528 billion on schools (and attrociously). #edreform #
- And 45% of Yanks likely don't either. RT @matthewktabor: 44% of Young Brits Don't Know Who This Man Is: http://twurl.nl/4bk5x4 #edreform #
- @matthewktabor I try to give benefit of the doubt. Now, back to reading "A History of the English-Speaking Peoples". The original volumes. in reply to matthewktabor #
- @andreagl Exactly. Contrary to what some ed folks like to say, you usually can't see "great teaching" except in the results. in reply to andreagl #
- @andreagl The best teachers aren't always the ones who get every face to smile. The worst know how to hide what they do from adults. in reply to andreagl #
- @andreagl And as much of our "observations" is based on personal experiences. Which are too biased for words. in reply to andreagl #
- That should be "are", not "is" #
- @alexanderrusso Well, Alexander, you can't satisfy them all #nsvf in reply to alexanderrusso #
- Burning the village to save it? RT @urbanophile: WSJ: Detroit to Demolish 10,000 Homes http://is.gd/c9j8m – Includes M.Romney's boyhood home #
- Shoddy #NEA propaganda in support of Harkin's $23 billion #ARRA II, bashing Boehner's opposition: #edreform #
- @tvanderark Of course. It is HuffPo, not NR. in reply to tvanderark #
- @dgblankinship I can. It can be done. What teachers are owed – what state/district has in assets = taxpayers are on the hook. in reply to dgblankinship #
- @dgblankinship Yup. I can also tell you why so many reporters find explaining pensions to be complex: Fear of math, double-entry bookkeeping in reply to dgblankinship #
- RT @dgblankinship Me too. @RachelAPOly Just got an email criticizing me for writing what 'the man' tells me to..really need to meet this man #
- @ChitownStu It's like the 70s again. #FlyersVs Montreal in reply to ChitownStu #
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