Dropout Nation on Twitter for 2010-07-20
- @JasonFlom Jason, thanks for your response. The issue isn't the evidence. The fact of the matter is that teachers — especially those who in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom are not doing a good job in the classroom — do get treated very well. When you have just a 2 percent chance of ever being in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom dismissed (in the real world, the chances of dismissal are far greater), near-lifetime job security obtained in just three years in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom and other benefits, much of which are shaped by #NEA #AFT collective bargaining and legislative lobbying by same unions, is a in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom, actually, are signs that teachers are treated very well. The fact that you don't find that evidence convincing goes back in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom to your own views and your own experiences, not on evidence. But that's fine: We are all shaped by experiences. But in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom experiences aren't evidence. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom The reason why we don't get top-flight candidates is for the very reasons I have stated — and the reasons pointed out in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom in "Invisible Ink": Talented people want more than just pay and benefits. This is especially true of younger teachers, who don't in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom benefit from seniority-based privileges, are subjected to Last Hired First Fired until they gain enough time on the job to avoid in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom layoffs, and have grown up in a world in which performance is rewarded with bonuses, opportunities for entrepreneurship, etc. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom Just because a system treats teachers well doesn't mean it is attractive to a new generation of workers. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom This is because what earlier generations wanted as rewards and gained fit what either potential teachers or even those who in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom are working in the field actually want. You yourself seem to be expressing a series of frustrations, much of which arise in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom from how the #NEA #AFT have defended a status quo that they have helped developed that no one else, especially parents and in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom taxpayers, are willing to back with unquestioned support. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom Listen, teachers are more than just agroup. Each and every day in America, teachers are widely celebrated in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom in media large and small. Just because you aren't looking for the positives doesn't mean that they don't exist. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom And in any case, if a profession is confident in its status, activities, approach to professional activities, it worries not in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom about all media coverage. Wall Street investment bankers are proud of their work in spite of the recent round of media coverage in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom same with reporters and lawyers (two groups that never get a break). Guess what? Any large profession will get positive in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom and negative coverage. This means you're no different than other professions. And honestly, for that, you should be proud. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom You get positive coverage and negative coverage, both because they are warranted. There are great teachers doing great work, in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom both individually and collaboratively. There are also major problems within the teaching profession and how its reps (#NEA/#AFT) in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom represent their interests. The latter is one that teachers must deal with, especially if they want to be held in high regard. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom If you're not willing to look within, looking without won't solve nothing. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom Again, the choice is in the hands of you and your fellow teachers. I've already shown (as have others) the reasons why the in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom current system of teacher compensation doesn't serve your profession well. It is up to you to decide if you will work to do in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom something about it. #edreform activists have been offering their own solutions and, as seen with Education Sector and others, in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom seeking to talk to teachers about what they think. Again, just because you aren't looking doesn't mean it isn't happening. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom Ultimately, however, the profession must decide what it wants to be and work to help shape the framework… in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom or the profession will have to work within the framework without playing a part in shaping it. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @sanchezjb You're welcome! in reply to sanchezjb #
- @JasonFlom Apologies if I am. But every argument starts with a few assumptions. It is as much my job to correct your assumptions as it is in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom for you to correct mine. So long as we do so without rancor, it will work out just fine. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom Thanks for noting this. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom I'd say you'd have to tear up the compensation system. As I wrote (http://dropoutnation.net/ttm ), the current system doesn't in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom work for inspiring professionalism, even if it works for providing job security and benefits (the latter of which are in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom unsustainable). Transforming compensation is key. Performance pay is one aspect. But it also should include providng teachers in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom with opportunities to do different things that can help stem the dropout crisis and allow each to fulfill their ambitions in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom It could mean startup money to launch new schools or programs focusing on specific issues (reading, etc). It could mean master in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom teacher opportunities or ability to become an administrator without having to obtain advanced degrees (which mean little in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom when it comes to effective instruction or leadership). I think there are numerous possibilities. In some sense, we have to in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom approach recruitment and retention the way Google, IBM and Microsoft approach it: Forget trying to retain teachers as much as in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom recruit great talents and then provide them opportunities to grow. This means reforming how ed schools recruit and train teachers in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom (which they do abysmally), creating additional alternatives to entering teaching and the like. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom I mention compensation because opportunities for growth are part of compensation. In fact, opportunities for career growth in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom is the piece of the compensation puzzle that many people in education fail to consider (even though it has been a major aspect in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom in the private sector, albeit imperfectly handled) since the birth of the tech sector. But the opportunities piece is hard to in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom build from a position of job security. This is because opportunity always involves risk — and systems focused only on security in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom can't ever provide the latter because it means disturbing the former. One of those few "either-or" matters we all must deal with in reply to JasonFlom #
- RT @JasonFlom: @dropoutnation Along those lines, I think Kitty Boles' Millennium School idea has a lot of merit. #edreform #
- @JasonFlom I think the former. The reality is that no matter how you slice it, leaders are going to be held accountable (and should be) in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom They are going to have to accept the use of test score data the same way sports teams accept the metrics used to measure in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom their performance. In short, if they want to improve school quality, they will have to develop new approaches. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom They can't do this without giving teachers opportunities. in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom It will take some time to work itself out. The leaders in many trad. school districts are no more fans of test score data in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom than the #NEA #AFT. The new generation of leaders are accepting this, but the older generation remains either resistant or moving in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom so slowly as to try to render progress a nonstarter. That's fine; the #edreformers are younger than them and have the benefit in reply to JasonFlom #
- @JasonFlom of time (even if, unfortunately, our children do not). in reply to JasonFlom #
- RT @EdEquality@dropoutnation Dropout Nation Podcast Rallying Single Parents, Grandparents Immigrants for School Reform http://bit.ly/9QPqqP #
- RT @tina_louis: RT @NJ_Politics: Proposal would give Rutgers authority to approve N.J. charter schools http://bit.ly/9y1ZT6 #edreform #
- RT @chadsansing: #pbl RT @arosey: …Teaching Chemistry in Context http://bit.ly/buQp3p by @21stcenturychem <- great post on teaching #
- At Dropout Nation: Does Teacher Turnover Matter http://dropoutnation.net/ttm #TQReform #Teachers #edreform #TFA #
- Good quick analysis RT @alexanderrusso: Media: Three Ways NYT Gets Turnaround Story Wrong http://bit.ly/939veA #edreform #SIG #
- The Dropout Nation Podcast Rallying Single Parents, Grandparents, Immigrants for #edreform http://dropoutnation.net/sc #ParentPower #
- RT @iwantwealth: Want to make an impact? Mentor, coach, teach, inspire, help…a parent. #edreform #
- RT @iwantwealth We have plenty of moms that "love" their children but can't deposit what they don't have…will deposit what they do have #
- RT @matthewktabor Check out @dropoutnation's newest podcast on rallying families for school reform http://twurl.nl/m1zcwi #edchat #edreform #
- RT @matthewktabor: @DropoutNation Some great stuff in there – tremendous opportunities to use pre-existing… networks to improve schools #
- @matthewktabor Thanks. @matthewktabor I think #edreform activists don't realize the power of these networks in sustaining efforts. in reply to matthewktabor #
- RT @Kvanderark: RT @tvanderark: see EEP & NCLR comments on parent involvement in turnarounds on Ntl Journal http://bit.ly/d4doLu #edreform #
- RT @DJGrambo: At Dropout Nation: Does Teacher Turnover Matter http://dropoutnation.net/ttm #TQReform #Teachers #edreform #TFA #
- More on Winerip's claptrap from Rotherham: http://bit.ly/bynrOc #edreform #NCLB #SIG #turnaroundschools #
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